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I guess there are enough people on this list waiting for my reaction to Pawn in Frankincense that I owe you a post. WAAHHH! Definitely the most readable of the Dunnett books so far, but what an emotional roller-coaster. I got kind of fed up at the end of Lymond's complete lack of resource against his enemy... It just all seemed so damn pointless and unfair. And actually, having finished it, I'm still not sure what the *point* of the whole search was, apart from turning Our Hero into an emotional and physical cripple. OK, so he gets to kill Gabriel, but even the Mean Old Omniscient Narrator says that the killing meant nothing, given the state of mental collapse that Lymond's in by the time he gets to do it. Philippa is wonderful. I love the way she gets to mature, and blossom, and manages to be heroic while maintaining her own femininity and character (and, despite the seraglio and the marriage, even her virginity!!!). It just about kills me who she ends up married to. I kind of toyed with the idea myself while reading, but never imagined Dunnett would entertain it as well--nay, even EFFECT it by the end of the book. I have to say, people accuse me of needlessly tormenting my own fictional characters, but at least I don't go around cutting babies' throats. And I do try to land my favorites in situations they have a chance of recovering from eventually. Marthe... hermaphrodite or woman??? Lymond... Did he sleep with Dragut or not? Khaireddin... How far does he take his clients? Oonagh... murder or suicide? Man, I don't know why I keep reading this stuff, it's so ultimately UNFULFILLING. A bit like being an opium addict, I suppose. I loved it. Today, LJ is not showing any of my paragraph divisions. Apologies for the ensuing incoherence. I am bored with trying to fix it.

Date: 2008-05-06 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] camille-is-here.livejournal.com
I almost stopped at the baby-killing. Did stop, actually, for a long time. Still not satisfied with the way that played out.

I liked the Lymond books until that one, but ultimately preferred the Nicolo books and found them much more satisfying.

And, oh by the way, hi! It's been a while. . . !
Edited Date: 2008-05-06 11:43 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-05-06 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dremiel.livejournal.com
I also adore the Niccolo books! A survey on a Dunnett listserve years ago revealed that most readers favor the series they started with.

p.s. The Boy(11)is thoroughly enjoying Demigod and Monsters and even decided to give a copy to a friend! He's also making notes of the authors he likes best (including you) for the weekly library stop. Thanks for the heads up!

Date: 2008-05-06 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
what an emotional roller-coaster.
just all seemed so damn pointless and unfair.
not sure what the *point* [...] was, apart from turning Our Hero into an emotional and physical cripple.

Yeah, welcome to the Chronicles of Lymond. It's not really a series for people who want to avoid being emotionally manipulated.

I loved the books, but I also went through the whole series thinking, "Dunnett is so jerking me around right now. And I don't even care!"

Date: 2008-05-06 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rj-anderson.livejournal.com
Hold on. It gets worse. And better. And worse. And better.

Though I am one of those rare and bizarre birds who loves the Johnson Johnson books more than anything else I've read by Dunnett, so you may or may not want to take my opinions into account.

BTW, when it comes to reading your work I have so far only been able to lay hands on A Coalition of Lions, but as soon as I finished it I went and changed my Facebook status to "...wants all the rest of Elizabeth Wein's books NOW."

I mean, the whole thing was great and I can't wait to find out more about Telemakos and all these other fantastic characters, but -- how did you make me fall for Priamos in practically the first paragraph he appeared? Genius.

Dear Local Independent Bookseller: If you do not deliver the rest of these books to me soon, I will DIE and leave my rotting corpse on your doorstep with a reproachful placard. Love, Loyal Customer.

Date: 2008-05-06 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rj-anderson.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm so glad I did read them out of order then! Because I was so curious, and I couldn't wait. And I've had a Mordred Thing ever since I read Stewart's The Wicked Day, so... yeah. Sounds like I unwittingly made the right call. (Though I definitely plan to read Winter Prince, too!)

Anyway, you've given me enough other characters to love and/or be fascinated by that I think I shall reconcile myself to Priamos's absence fairly well. I'll just be that much happier if/when he does show up again...

*clearly needs more Fictional Boyfriend icons, but uses this one in the meantime*

Date: 2008-05-06 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rj-anderson.livejournal.com
Well, I was thirteen when The Wicked Day first came out, which makes me feel a bit long in the tooth myself...

Date: 2008-05-06 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rj-anderson.livejournal.com
w00t!

I suspected as much all along.

Date: 2008-05-06 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiboribi.livejournal.com
Isn't he still a little young?

Date: 2008-05-06 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiboribi.livejournal.com
I haven't been the same age as your protaganists ever. I have it in my head that the twins are my age, but really they haven't been close since I first read The Winter Prince.

Date: 2008-05-06 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiboribi.livejournal.com
I waited very patiently for A Coalition of Lions and was so incredibly happy when it came out. You don't need to apologize.

Date: 2008-05-06 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhari.livejournal.com
DAMN SKIPPY. *waits for him to grow up already* XD

I plead guilty to not being over Medraut, but honestly, just watching him do his Protective Daddy thing is enough to mollify me. :D

well done

Date: 2008-05-08 11:59 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
well done, guy

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