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Oh my god it’s so DARK!!!!
 
The street lights flicked on at exactly 3.30 p.m. yesterday afternoon as Mark and I walked home from school. They’re not on now at 9.40 a.m., but it is twilight inside the house with the lights out. And it’s only going to get darker for the next two weeks.
 
However, this means that the Mills Observatory in Dundee is in full swing.  I just cannot gush enough over what a supremely cool place this is. For a start, it is FREE. It is entirely operated by the Dundee City Council, and has been ever since it first opened its papier mache dome to the public in 1935 (though you do pay a tiny fee to see the planetarium show, presumably to subsidize the guy who gives the lecture four times a night). And then, the observatory is ONLY OPEN AT NIGHT IN WINTER. Just about every other tourist attraction in the UK shuts down and hibernates between October and April, so this is very unusual, although it makes sense if you consider that the opposite of dark is light…. in other words, at midsummer it doesn’t get dark enough to look through the telescope, and even in August you’d have to wait till after 10.00 p.m.

The first time we visited the observatory, last March, was a huge success, but since September we have made three foiled attempts to visit: on our first try, the place was closed; then the man who operates the telescope was sick; and finally we got lost and arrived so late we missed the planetarium show. Fourth try lucky. The planetarium is teeny tiny.  (I suppose I should say it is "wee.")  It is a tent, like a silk parachute on a frame, set up in a room that I would guess is smaller than our living room (I was instantly put in mind of the Great Globe Room in The Lion Hunter). There are about a dozen office chairs set up all around the edge of the dome. We had a lecture on space Clouds (baby stars, nebulae) afterward, but the show itself was just a straightforward view of the sky at the moment and all the interesting things to look for--namely Comet Holmes in Perseus, and Algol the demon star, then Mars and the Geminids in December. The lecturer told us to come back in December and maybe we can see the surface of Mars!

He was lovely--so enthusiastic, pointing out his favorite constellations--he said it never ceases to amaze him to think we are all made of of material that was once a star.  “You are all created from the stuff of stars.” He kept talking about these huge time periods, stellar time, as though it happened in an eyeblink.  “These are young stars, only ten million years old, we’re quite lucky to see them really”--as though we were around more than ten million years ago or will be ten million years from now! He made me want to be an astronomer.
 
He made Mark want to be an astronomer, too. Mark (who is 7) was particularly impressed with the planetarium equipment and has asked for a star globe for Christmas. No, really, he said in his funny self-conscious shy way: “There’s something I want… It’s a star globe.” He even suggested where you can buy them. Then he came home and put together a P0werpoint presentation entitled "SPACE" which I dearly wish I could share only I can't be bothered to spend two hours figuring out how to do it.

Date: 2007-12-05 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
3:30? Ow, that's terrible! We're significantly farther south, and therefore have longer days.

I hope you can find time to get out to the Observatory soon. Sounds like fun. ;o)

Date: 2007-12-05 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
How sad....you need one of those sun lamps!

Date: 2007-12-05 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
Good call!

Date: 2007-12-05 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiboribi.livejournal.com
I do love winter, but I think I would go a little mad if it got dark at 3:30 in the afternoon.

I went through a brief period of wanting to study space when I was seven. I wanted less to be an astronomer and more to be an astro-physicist (I think I wanted to be Meg's dad from A Wrinkle in Time). I lost that bug until I was in college, and then I was almost bitten by it again, at which point the algebra frightened me.

Date: 2007-12-05 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiboribi.livejournal.com
That is so cool!

Can you see the Norther lights where you are?

Date: 2007-12-13 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajl-r.livejournal.com
Saw this just now - http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3247578.ece. Seriously strange idea, magnetic 'ropes'...

Date: 2007-12-13 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajl-r.livejournal.com
Quite so. :)

It would be nice to think of 'sky creatures', perhaps, swinging amongst them...

Date: 2007-12-05 05:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
and all the interesting things to look for--namely Comet Holmes in Perseus, and Algol the demon star, then Mars and the Geminids in December. The lecturer told us to come back in December and maybe we can see the surface of Mars!

That's wonderful. I love winter stars.

Hello!

Date: 2007-12-06 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handworn.livejournal.com
I suppose I should say it is "wee."

On our honeymoon in Edinburgh, we played Quizzo with a couple Scottish women, one of whom said her mother was home with "the wee one." Charmed us, since on the side of the pond the word's mainly in "This Little Piggy Went To Market." :-)

Date: 2007-12-10 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handworn.livejournal.com
Ah-- that's marvelous! I'd love to try those dances. A day in museums and browsing used bookstores, nice dinner out and then country dances sounds like our idea of an ideal vacation day for us. And of the two of us, I'm the one with the stronger aesthetic sense, so we'd fit right in! Must be our Scottish ancestors; my folk were Borderers, mainly.

Date: 2007-12-07 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajl-r.livejournal.com
Dark is awful, isn't it. Even here, about 450 miles south of where you are, it's dark now at 4.00 pm. Mind you, from about now I start watching the sunrise/sunset times on the BBC Weather pages for my little town (http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=1559) so that I can see them start to creep apart again from later this month. :)

Date: 2007-12-10 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajl-r.livejournal.com
As a matter of interest, I don't know if you or your son has the latest version of Google Earth? With that one, you can put your postcode in and then click on the 'sky' view and it shows you the star map visible above your house (were you able to see it for the clouds, that is). Your budding astronomer might like that?

Date: 2007-12-11 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajl-r.livejournal.com
Your local planetarium does sound like a wonderful place to visit. Mind you, have you or the budding Halley ever tried looking at a full moon using a pair of binocculars? Quite an extraordinary view one gets.

Re the Google Earth/Sky, when you've got the latest version, if you click on 'Help', then 'Tutorials', then choose the one about Sky, it takes you to a little video on YouTube, here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMhGpzyFdhE. Very interesting.

Date: 2007-12-12 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajl-r.livejournal.com
My word, that sounds to have been an amazing view, of the moon 'edge'. Makes one wonder if/when we'll ever get a chance to go there...:).

Date: 2007-12-11 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiboribi.livejournal.com
The Google Earth thing sounds so cool! (I am easily excited, especially at the end of a work day.) Now I want to go home and play with it! One of the coolest things in Ptolemy was reading about what the stars would do as you got further north.

Date: 2007-12-12 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajl-r.livejournal.com
Yes, I find imagining what someone of that period thought about the celestial maps and movements slightly boggling. An amazing piece of work, all that cataloguing. I wonder, sometimes, what works of our own period may be read/useful for such a long period.
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Date: 2007-12-10 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katranides.livejournal.com
Ooh, ooh! Can we go when I come to visit? I know you'll be busy with baking gingerbread, but couldn't we? Please, oh, please, oh, please. I'll even pay for gas--petrol!

Date: 2007-12-17 10:52 am (UTC)

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